Posted by TNA Wrestling News Staff on Jan 5, 2013
Kevin Nash: ‘Fingerpoke Of Doom Didn’t Change Wrestling’

Kevin Nash: ‘Fingerpoke Of Doom Didn’t Change Wrestling’ has posted this interview with Mick Foley and former TNA star Kevin Nash talking about January 4th, 1999 which is the night that Foley won the WWF title and WCW ran the “Fingerpoke of Doom” angle. Check out the highlights:

Foley on what the night means to him: “In retrospect, if people say it’s the night that changed wrestling, I’ll believe it. I’m happy to take that credit, but certainly think it was a night that changed people’s perception about me within the wrestling industry…When the taping results came out, and there was the instantaneous switching of hundreds of thousands of TV sets, I think I went from being a highly recognized role player to a leading man in WWE. I still sometimes wonder if I wasn’t just a very good role player, but at least for a period of time, the results begged to differ.”

Nash on the significance of the night: “That was the night that changed wrestling? Oh, I disagree…The year that [Mike] Tyson showed up for WrestleMania [XIV] in ’98 changed wrestling. Who thinks Jan. 4, ’99, changed wrestling? A lot of [know-it-all fans]? It was already back and forth at that point with who won Mondays, so how did that change anything?”

Nash on the idea that momentum shifted to WWE “in a spiritual sense” at that point: “I don’t believe in it. There’s nothing spiritual about it. When Tyson came to WrestleMania, Vince knew that everybody was going to be watching that WrestleMania. They put a movie-trailer-quality piece before every match that caught everybody up to date if you hadn’t been watching the show every week. It got a great buyrate. When I watched that WrestleMania, I said, “We’re dead in the water.” That’s what changed wrestling…You’re not talking to some [know-it-all]. You’re talking to somebody that was in the process, in the middle of it. We could never out-produce Vince. Our production was never anywhere near Vince’s production. And then Vince went edgier than we were, and all of a sudden standards and practices started pulling the cord back on us. Raw became the hip show and we became the un-hip show.”

On the signficance of the Fingerpooke of Doom: “The “Fingerpoke of Doom” was nothing. The “Fingerpoke of Doom” was just trying to realign The nWo to face off with Goldberg and Goldberg ended up getting injured. I love how the story of my life is how I beat Goldberg to turn around and take the “Fingerpoke of Doom” a week later. Boy, that did me a lot of good. When you look at how people perceive the whole thing, it’s ridiculous…The number one problem people have with the “Fingerpoke of Doom” is it “got” everybody. And nobody likes to be “got.” So, of course, [know-it-alls] are going to hate it the most because they never called it. They didn’t see anything coming.”

On whether the fingerpoke was a reaction to hearing that Foley was winning the title: “Oh, we didn’t care what WWE was doing. We were more worried about when Sable would come out, because those quarter-hour ratings of Raw would go through the roof. It was planned for about two or three weeks. It got to the point where people were disenchanted because Goldberg was undefeated. When we went to WWE’s territory in Salisbury, Md., people were chanting “Goldberg sucks.” They started pumping in the “Goldberg” chants and it became a situation where they were trying to fabricate a situation that had been organic.”

Foley on whether the WWE locker room was aware of what WCW was doing each Monday night: “Oh sure, yeah. I wasn’t aware about what had happened on Nitro that night until I saw it play out on Jan. 4. I think too much of the credit goes to me individually when a lot of the credit should go to WCW for putting on a really bad show that night. The arresting of Goldberg I thought was terrible. And for a long time, I thought WCW had the hot hand in the wrestling war. I would watch their show and go, “Wow, they’ve just got that edge that we don’t seem to have.” But by the time the ratings tide turned in our favor, I believe we had the better show for well more than a year. I’m not picking on Nitro, because they had some great shows, but that particular night stood out to me for being particularly bad.”

Foley on why that night was particularly bad: “I always say there’s no steadfast formula for getting a show right. There are some nights when Raw seems to go better than others. The show hooks people and the action is compelling. There are other nights that doesn’t seem to go so well. For example, the dramatic return of Santa Claus was one of my all-time favorite Raws, and it seemed to be a night where everything was just right for that particular show. But I think this was a combination of WCW getting everything wrong on the wrong night and WWE getting everything right on the right night.”

Nash on whether he would go back and do a match against Hogan or Goldberg instead of the fingerpoke: “It wouldn’t have mattered. Goldberg still would’ve put his hand through the limo window [and been injured] in a couple of months, so what’s the difference? A bunch of [know-it-all fans] wouldn’t be as mad?…They already knew they wanted to watch Mick win the title over me wrestling Goldberg or Hulk. That was a decision that was already made.”

Foley on why his title win still resonated with fans despite being spoiler on Nitro: “I think until that moment there was maybe not so much a definite standard to what a champion should look like, but a definite standard to what a champion should not look like. And yet, I had built up an incredible amount of goodwill and credibility with the WWE Universe. People had watched me work my way up from the Clarksburg Armory to Madison Square Garden. I believe people were ready to accept it. And ready to believe in it…It hurt at the time. When I heard it, it hurt. But no doubt about it, it turned out to be the best thing that could’ve possibly happened to me.”

Foley on the next time he saw Eric Bischoff after that night: “I actually saw him on an airplane only three weeks later. I was coming back from the Royal Rumble in January 1999 and he was traveling somewhere else. I think we just exchanged formalities. Any bitterness I had about it was kind of erased when the ratings came out. I actually waited until the ratings came out until I called Tony Schiavone and I just left a purposely very forlorn message saying, “Listen, it’s Mick Foley. I heard what you said. I honestly don’t know why you guys would do that to somebody who worked so hard for so long for your company. And in truth, it probably just hurt your ratings. But anyway, I just thought I’d say hello”…Tony ended up calling me back and my wife answered the phone. She came to me and said, “It’s Tony Schiavone and he sounds really sad.” I knew as soon as he made that comment on air that it was probably put in his ear by Bischoff. Tony and I had a nice little conversation, but honestly I’m not bitter toward the players of that evening, because it all combined to make for the best possible scenario.”

Foley on whether Bischoff ever apologized: “He never apologized on a personal level, but he said he wouldn’t do it again if it was his decision. He did what he thought he had to do for his company. I think there should be exceptions. I think they should have factored in how hard I worked for those guys. I think the sarcastic “Wow, that’ll put a lot of butts in the seats” was really the one that hurt. It was like dismissing my entire career as a joke. And it turned out the joke was on them.”

Nash on his overall impressions of that night: “It’s like a situation where you call a play in football and it doesn’t work out. In retrospect you wouldn’t want to run that play, but you don’t get that chance. Live TV is live TV. You don’t get a replay. You don’t get any of those in life.”

Nash on why WCW folded: “When the dot-com bubble burst, we weren’t owned by Time Warner. We were owned by AOL. What do you think happened when the stock went from like $70 to $17? So was the closing of WCW from the “Fingerpoke of Doom”? You have to realize, you can’t live in a wrestling bubble. They didn’t just sell WCW. They sold the Atlanta Braves, the Atlanta Hawks, the Atlanta Thrashers, the building that they played in. They sold any tangible asset they had because they were going under. WCW being shut down was just set up to fail and to look like it never made a dime.”

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14 Responses to “Kevin Nash: ‘Fingerpoke Of Doom Didn’t Change Wrestling’”

  1. Stunner says:

    I can’t believe I wasted time reading over half of this garbage. That night is over with an can never return Kevin Nash please no more interviews please. Lets talk about something anything remotely interesting that has to do with TNA Wrestling. Like will velvet sky returning jump start the KOs division. Or maybe why the TNA X-Division hasn’t grown much, when is TNA going to start fusing in some of the GUT Check winners other than York, im sorry and Joey Ryan. Why did Bishoff son not have to go through the GUT CHECK process, why is Wes Brisco on TV yet Sam Shaw I feel is more athletic and has a better charisma and crowd reaction. Why is Rock Star Spud not in a TNA ring, if anyone can party like that and gt up and wrestle the next morning hey that’s a warrior! When is EY coming back, an will EY make a run at the TV belt again. Questions like why does TNA have I think four tag teams, at least two maybe three more tag teams are needed. Questions like when will TNA strip ODB & EY of the KOs Tag Team Titles and actually have female tag teams! (wait that’s WAY too much drama) lol! Is it true that TNA maybe interested in Beth Phenoix, and one of the members of LaCool! Question like is TNA in talks with John Morrison, I personally don’t think he would be a good fit in TNA. If TNA could get Shelton Benjamin now there’s a good pick up ! Things like that!

  2. Dirk1n says:

    Some people are going to be even more pissed reading Nash's comments
    I saw the fingerpoke at the time, it was hardly the worst thing in wrestling, as people try to make out, my only issue with it was I was looking forward to seeing Hogan vs Nash
    It has to go down as one of the best swerves in wrestling history, but everybody ignores that, maybe Nash has a point

    As for the Tyson thing, I hadn't seen WWF/E in a long time but knew all about Tyson appearing at WM and what happened, it doesn't sound like much but I'm in the UK and the only person I knew that watched wrestling, no internet then either

    • SammartinoJC says:

      Sorry but I have to totally disagree. When you pay or are promised to see a match…you should see a match! i know NWO was supposed to be edgy and counter culture not caring about the fans but stuff like that cost WCW viewers and that's why they lost the ratings war.

    • rawuncutnxrated says:

      That was hardly "one of the best swerves in wrestling history" not even close. It was one of the stupidest things ever. I watched that ***ht too. The NWO was way past the point of being relevant, and these clowns, Hogan & Nash were fighting like hell to keep their name at that top. They were the heels, they were supposed to lose & go down to put a face over big time. Instead they just kept it going & going. Not learning here we are w/ the A&8's & everytime it should get close to an end we get some crap "swerve" so it keeps a pulse, while each time helps turn more & more people to something else on tv.

      Nash needs to shut it & accept his role in the debacle. Instead he wants to point at everyone else. Who cares if Goldy got hurt in a couple months after that, he was the top dog & he was who people paid to see. Having him lose to some dumb Hall run in after all the other run-ins was idiotic. The best matches ***ht in & out were the ones that didn't involve any of the NWO, at least in 98-99 when things collapsed. They should have invested in their younger guys who were getting over huge, instead Nash & Hogan couldn't let go.

  3. mrthefanboy says:

    Finger Poke of Doom wasn't that bad to me at all,the NWO were supposed to be against traditon.

  4. kevinroulette says:

    I liked the finger poke of boom . Never saw it coming .I didn't turn the channel , to see that stunt man win a title

  5. jbcissom says:

    I was more upset with David Arquette winning the WHC than at the Fingerpoke of Doom.

  6. Kyle says:

    Nothing Nash was ever involved with hurt wrestling at all, ever!!!!! Or atleast everytime he speaks, that’s what he basically says. Screw Nash.

  7. Philly_Cheese says:

    People freak out about the fingerpoke of doom, mostly because they felt robbed of a match… In all reality no one really expected Nash and Hogan to actually wrestle, they were both part of the NWO… It's the same way people get upset when a match goes into one big cluster fuck with a bunch of people running in, or the match going to a DQ, it's part of the story get over it.

  8. Jon says:

    Nash proving that denial ain't just a river in Egypt. He's a talented guy, seems reasonably bright … but his inability (or unwillingness) to acknowledge the significance of that moment & his role in it is rather sad. {shrug} I strongly suspect that both he & I will manage to find a way to sleep at night even with my opinion of him diminished by that shortcoming.

  9. kingrog2000 says:

    now why is the finger poke of doom such a disappointment but whe wwe does it later down the road when there was a match for ic belt between hhh and shawn michaels and shawn layed down thats ok? look wwe was copying even a long time ago lol i liked the fingerpoke didnt see it coming shawn laying down was so obvious

    • Jon says:

      I suspect the different reaction is because a lot fewer people actually gave a damn about the outcome of the HHH/HBK IC match.

  10. The shield says:

    loved how nash emphasized on the KNOW IT ALL FANS especially the ones on this site lol… Turd marks

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