Posted by TNA Wrestling News Staff on Sep 17, 2013
Report: Another Bischoff & Hogan TNA Idea Fails

Report: Another Bischoff & Hogan TNA Idea Fails

Partial Source: Prowrestling.net

UPDATE x 2: There are many people within TNA are starting to wonder if Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan will last with the company now that TNA is considering taking iMPACT! Wrestling off the road.

Taking iMPACT! on the road was Bischoff and Hogan’s idea and could be yet another idea of the two that has failed, following airing iMPACT! on Monday nights and “spending more money to make more money”.

As reported earlier, Hogan’s contract with TNA is set to expire in a few weeks. It remains to be seen if TNA brings one or both of them back, or if the two will be released/not re-signed.

UPDATE: TNA officials are reportedly considering the idea of taking iMPACT! off the road and heading back to a single location for their tapings. According to multiple sources close to the situation, both Las Vegas and Orlando are under consideration for such a locale.

It is said to be a “foregone conclusion” that the tapings will come off the road, with one source noting that it will be early next year at the latest. The company has incurred new expenses with going on the road and this would be a cost cutting measure.

Stay tuned for more details.

ORIGINAL: During a Q&A in Toronto with Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff over the weekend as part of a Fan Expo event, a fan asked Hogan what could be done to make TNA successful. Hogan said that Bischoff “needed to be given the keys to the car” and that, “somebody somewhere” needed to “drop all the resources we need like we had in the WWE and the WWF, whether it be cameras or money or vehicles or advertising” in order for TNA to work “in a perfect world.”

According to sources, those within TNA are upset about that statement for a number of reasons and there is “nuclear heat” on the two for hinting that the Carter family wasn’t giving TNA the proper resources. The comments are seen as a slap in the face of TNA President Dixie Carter from her top paid talent.

One wrestler said (while asking to be kept anonymous): “Even if you agreed with Hulk, the way it was said and the way it comes across in that video just completely disrespected Dixie, even if that’s not what he meant.”

Another reason they are upset is that Bischoff has been given creative control. From day one, he and Hogan have got their way with direction and ideas, including what talent was brought in, removing the six-sided ring, moving iMPACT! Wrestling to Mondays against RAW, taking TNA on the road and more. TNA agreed to the ideas hoping it would build their company. Basically, the two have gotten nearly everything they’ve asked for. The problem is that the company hasn’t grown since Bischoff and Hogan came on board in any aspect, including live events, ratings or licensing. With that being said, the two are placing the blame on everyone but themselves when it’s actually them who are screwing things up more and more. Let’s be honest though .. do you honestly think Bischoff or Hogan would ever put the blame on themselves? Of course not … they’ll blame the talents, management, Carter’s, etc and that’s exactly what they’re doing right now. That has pissed off a TON of people in the company including management and talent.

The company began touring but didn’t see any increased revenue that they were led to believe they would get. Instead, they had to restructure the company and become an “evil” company that let Jesse Sorensen go, as well as being in a position where money is an issue in re-signing AJ Styles. Again, many of these issues fall on the hands of Bischoff and Hogan.

TNA paid Hogan a good salary and put Bischoff in a position to be the liaison between Spike and TNA, even before Dixie Carter, who built the relationship between the two. The two continue to get rewards for being with the company while others have been fired or been given less money, and the company isn’t doing as well as they thought.

The anonymous wrestler added: “Hulk came across like he pretty much said that the company didn’t have anyone strong in charge and Eric was the savior. Well, they’ve been here years and Eric hasn’t saved anyone yet.”


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57 Responses to “Report: Another Bischoff & Hogan TNA Idea Fails”

  1. cnote says:

    Wow figures a talentless talent with no balls to say who they are is putting people on blast. At least hogan had the nuts to say what he really thinks which is the truth and of course all you trolls to this site are gonna jump on the band wagon which that’s who probably wrote the letter complaining about them and said they are a TNA talent but in realty they are nothing more then a fan or at that a low rate back yard wrestling never has been and never will be! Hogan is right someone needs to dump some money into TNA to get it up and going and for all of you who disagree I got 2 words for ya! SLAP NUTZ!

    • Philly_Cheese says:

      First you need to take an English class, because most of that was just horrid to read through. Hogan was signed to a contract by TNA under the terms that he brings attention to TNA, he has not done that. Both Hogan and Bischoff have done nothing but give horrible idea, after horrible idea. Finally only a totally idiot continually sinks money into a company without it being profitable. Ted Turner sank millions into WCW and quite frankly it caused him more than what he got back.

      • ricky_No1 says:

        Oh so true, so true. May as well just burn bank notes all day long. It would cost less cash that way. Its nice to see someone with a sound opinion and not talk like a blinkered mark.

        • Philly_Cheese says:

          Exactly, and that's something Ted Turner is known for doing simply because he has so much money. He's sank millions into failing companies on a whim, and sometimes it's paid off massively, but most times it's resulted in epic failures.

      • cnote says:

        LAME!!!!!

      • cnote says:

        What I find funny is how you seem to know what was in his contract. Did you write it? Where you there when it was written? Have you ever even seen the contract? I doubt you have so until then don’t come on here and comment about a contract that you know nothing about OK slap nut!

    • NonameMcgee says:

      Wow dude really, do you really think that as long as Bitchoff and Hogan are in charge, TNA will have any sucess? I don't care how much money you dump into TNA with those guys in charge, the results are going to be the same. Here is a prime example for you, a little company " you might rember" called WCW gave limit less amounts of money to your butt-buddies Hogan and Bitchoff and where is that company right now????? So I am sorry to tell you just because Hogan was good for wrestling in his prime does not mean he is good for wrestling now. And just because Bitchoff came up with one good idea with the NWO does not mean he is a savior of anything, considering he could'nt even save WCW….

  2. Mr. Excitement says:

    I'm looking forward to single location. Let's see what TNA can do without Hogan/Bischoff.

    • PennyAnd1 says:

      Me too. You're going to see TNA fail. I liked the live audience. It was much fun to watch on TV. If they go back to Orlando with the same fans over & over, you can all it quits because I just can't tolerate that shit.

      • Philly_Cheese says:

        The problem is that it costs far to much to be on the road, and in order to pay for that they've had to drop everyone's wages, which has sent the wrestlers to an all time low. With the wrestlers at a low, they're not going to perform their best. I said from the beginning with TNA going on the road that it was going to fail, it's not the way to get attention to the company at all.

        If they want to get attention to the company they need to do a couple things:
        1 – Get creative under control and lead by ONE PERSON
        2 – Dixie needs to take control of her company and get involved
        3 – Find a true face of the company and push him/her properly (this falls under a creative problem again). They've been continually placing former WWE wrestlers in that position and it's never going to work, because they'll always be known for their work in WWE. They need something new and fresh, and to simply stop recycling the same things.
        4 – Start finding ways to advertise more on TV, even if it's not through Spike. I'm sure there's channels that would be willing to run ads if the money is right. I'm sure if they dropped both Hogan and Bischoff and used that money for advertising it'd go a long way.

        • cnote says:

          You know your a damn genius maybe you should go work for TNA and show them how your years of experiance as a fan will help them flip their buisness around I applaud you and oh maybe you could become an on air character as a fortune teller whooo scary and mysteries since you where able to predict what’s happened to TNA. Whatever slap nut!

        • PennyAnd1 says:

          That's all good advertisement, but it won't work. In my opinion, ever since TNA went on the road, it felt like a true professional wrestling. Going back to what looks like a staged audience just loses credibility. I wish TNA was funded by a billionaire Ted guy.

  3. godoftna says:

    For once, I have to say that you can't really blame the poor road performances on Hogan or Bischoff. Whether it was Hogan and Bischoff's idea or not, it was a move that was going to happen eventually no matter what. The blame instead should be on TNA itself as they've hardly done all that they truly could to properly advertise IMPACT, as well as the fact that they've been trying to take the show into newer markets. Were TNA to limit itself to touring in their strong areas(NY for example), they'd probably get a stronger return compared to drawing a weak crowd like they do. Honestly, with TNA planning to take IMPACT off the road in the near future, any place that they could find to run in NYC would be a huge boost for the company and the show. It's probably unlikely, but the Hammerstein Ballroom(ECWs old stomping grounds), would be a perfect home for TNA and IMPACT.

    • jbcissom says:

      People just don't understand Keynesian Economics.

    • PennyAnd1 says:

      I liked TNA ever since Hogan & Bischoff came. TNA had a professional touch to it, with a classic feel, and everything was solid storyline wise. It felt like WCW to be honest with you all. TNA just doesn't have to money to compete with WWE. It's too bad, because TNA is more entertaining to watch than WWE.

      But I so much disliked TNA ridding away the 6 sided-ring. I wish they stuck with the 6 sided-ring and bring that to the road. Te 6-sided ring itself was an attraction and right now TNA needed all the attraction they can get.

      • godoftna says:

        Here's the thing, TNA shouldn't be trying to compete with the WWE. Instead, they need to just focus on building their own brand and making their own name.

        As for TNA with Hogan and Bischoff feeling like WCW, that's not exactly the most glowing endorsement for a pro wrestling company as both men had a hand in it's downfall. In fact, when they came in to TNA they tried making it look like every other pro wrestling company around. Some people might not have really cared about the loss of the six sided ring, but to me, it was something that set the company apart from the WWE and many other pro wrestling promotions. Though it's been used regularly in Mexico for a while, it was something new and fresh in the U.S. markets, and help to set them apart from everyone else. By changing to the regular squared circle, Hogan and Bischoff took away a part of TNA's identity. While the 6 sided ring certainly isn't going to put butts in the seats, it'd be worth bringing back just as a way for TNA to once again differentiate themselves.

        • tnadude says:

          "Here's the thing, TNA shouldn't be trying to compete with the WWE. Instead, they need to just focus on building their own brand and making their own name."

          Dude – it's the same thing, really. They are trying to gain wrestling fans, and there are only so many to go around. So, in essence, they're in a position where they are trying to "steal" WWE fans. Creating new wrestling fans is far far more difficult – especially considering wrestling hasn't been hot in so many years. Kids have grown up, adults have moved on. MMA is in, wrestling is out.

          • Philly_Cheese says:

            "stealing" fans isn't the way to go about it. Quite honestly most fans of TNA currently watch both WWE and TNA. The question isn't about people choosing WWE over TNA, simply because they can have both. The bigger problem is many people don't know about TNA because TNA does little to nothing to gather attention to themselves. The only reason I started watching TNA was because a friend got me to watch it one night, otherwise I wouldn't have known it existed.

          • godoftna says:

            the point I was trying to make was that TNA should largely ignore the WWE and what they do, and instead focus on themselves and what they need to do to produce the best possible product that they can. TNA needs to have a product that gets everyone talking and then watching while at the same time creating some new fans.

          • PennyAnd1 says:

            In what way is TNA not ignoring WWE. They've been focusing on themselves for a decade. Explain to me exactly a trick how everyone can talk about TNA that WWE & Vince hasn't used. There is no other way. Maybe if they bring back the 6-sided ring, it always catches attention. I know that's the first reason why I started to notice TNA. Do you know what the other reason was? When they brought in names like Sting, Flair, Hogan. Other than that, everything in wrestling is used.

            Imagine this. imagine if WWE & TNA switched arenas or crowd. You would think the most crowd is the most legit wrestling there is. I know from watching it on TV it seems that way to me regardless of the history. What was unbearable for me to watch TNA in past was the audience (Orlando audience). They weren't live, and I just didn't connect because everyone seemed dull regardless if the performance was awesome or not. TNA going back to a small crowd is taking a huge step backwards. I know it's for financial purpose, but a plant can only grow big to the size of its potter.

        • PennyAnd1 says:

          When I meant TNA had a WCW feel to it, I meant everything that was good to watch with WCW, not the politics that was happening in the back. WCW had a serious reality to it unlike WWE today which you could tell is full of soap.

      • Bigmike885 says:

        seriously…all you "it feels like WCW" guys need to realize something. The majority of the time WCW really really sucked when it came to storylines. They had a span of 2-3 years where they were really good, but before, and after that, they were spotty at best. Sure they had some great matches, and a good story here and there, but most off they were very bad

        • PennyAnd1 says:

          Are you kidding me? WCW had everything that people connected to. Raven & the Flock. NWO, the cruierweights, Jericho and his antics, the traditional four horsemen, and an undefeated Goldberg. But what made WCW better than WWE was the realism that they brought into it. The entrance was wrestling, the interviews were wrestling, the feel was wrestling. Watching WWE feels like watching a kids show. That's what I meant that TNA seems like WCW to it, because it's more pro than WWE.

          • Bigmike885 says:

            Yes. And all the stuff you mentioned (minus the majority of the horsemen) all took place in the 3 to 4 year period I was speaking ofSent from my iPhone

          • PennyAnd1 says:

            so.. what was argument about?

          • Bigmike885 says:

            For the vast majority of its existence wcw was not very good. At allSent from my iPhone

          • PennyAnd1 says:

            That's your opinion. It was good enough to make Vince panic and almost put WWE out of business. It's always been known that WCW made Vince change the way he did business.

          • Bigmike885 says:

            Wow. You're really not getting this. I get what you're saying But once again. That period only existed for 2 and a half years. People seem to have a revisionist history of what wcw was.Sent from my iPhone

  4. andy3323 says:

    I'd gladly accept the trade-off of them coming off the road if it means they can bring in some new talents, maybe a couple of old ones they had to let go.

    • PennyAnd1 says:

      I couldn't bare watching TNA in a dull Orlando crowd. It was horrible to watch on TV.

      • ricky_No1 says:

        So watching em in half empty arenas with crowds so cold its like the north pole is better? Man your such a bischoff mark you cant see every idea he has sucks. He has done nothing for TNA. Only thing he can do is kill TNA just like WCW.

        • PennyAnd1 says:

          And you're a WWE mark. The live crowd regardless if the arena is not full is still 10x better than the dull Orlando crowd of what, 100 people. And if you look closely, it's the same audience every night in Orlando. It's like they got paid to go there. It's a mockery to TNA. But what do you expect from a WWE mark. TNA in a small crowd will never grow.

          • Bigmike885 says:

            there's a difference between a Orlando crowd and a crowd from one location. The problem with universal was it was a tourist crowd. It was part of a attraction. If they pick one location..and a small arena..and I don't know..charge for tickets…it'll work…Your logic makes no sense. TNA doesn't have a unlimited budget..they cant afford to lose money (and don't give me the "the carters have billions" excuse..they don't want to use it on Dixies toy)

          • ricky_No1 says:

            What is it you dont understand, when i said i dont care for the WWE? Its not difficult to grasp. I have said it many times on this web site. So no, im not a WWE fan. I also said many times they need to get out of the impact zone but going on the road would be a huge mistake.

        • PennyAnd1 says:

          trust me, a half empty crowd is still 10x better than 100 crowd that is paid to go there over & over again. A set-up crowd just loses credibility in wrestling, lots of credibility.

  5. Luchador says:

    Dixie herself said TNA needed to go on the road so why blame Bischoff and Hogan, I don't see it as a idea that fail because now TNA has more exposure

    • Leg Drop Jobber says:

      How exactly does TNA have more exposure? The turnouts on the road were terrible, rating DID NOT INCREASE. What exactly did they gain from all of this?

      • Philly_Cheese says:

        Precisely, the ticket sales were no better than in Orlando. The TV ratings haven't increased at all. They gained nothing from going on the road. All they've managed to do is piss off many wrestlers (a good chunk of which have quit because of the crap going on), drop wrestler's pay, and increase their expenses and thus reduce their profits. The fact that they're upsetting their wrestlers so much is actually hurting the end product, because you can't expect an unhappy wrestler to do their best work.

        • cnote says:

          You tell them fortune teller! Once again you know all about the wrestling buisness from watching it a few hours a week.

          • Leg Drop Jobber says:

            You tell them cry baby! Once again you cry all about the wrestling business from watching it a few hours a wekk.

      • Luchador says:

        more exposure in having the shows different states, having the fans see them and making new fans, like me I'm finally going to be able to see them at Bound For Glory when they come to Cali, now the ratings I think its because of lack of advertisement they need to promote and hype Impact and PPV's more

        • Bigmike885 says:

          so then the "exposure" you talk about is non existent. If people the masses that you say come to their event watched Impact they'd have better ratings…

  6. Euphoria says:

    Tna indeed has more exposure. I would think a great idea would be like staying in one place for awhile at a time. One or two months one place to travel staying in different other areas as month or two at a time. Like maybe wrestlers hometowns etc.

  7. Josh L says:

    People this is a rumor site we don’t really know what’s going on I think in reality Dixie is finally listening to the fans who which most have been saying to get rid of hogan and bischoff and now your hearing reports of jarrett being involved more its not coincidence if she is blaming them it’s probably the fact that she’s looking for reasons to give them the boot which is what we all wanted anyway. If this indeed does happen give them time and I believe they can grow the right way not the bischoff and hogan way where everything has to happen right away. They come off the road get rid of 2 large salaries that frees up alot of money to invest in some new talent new television and new marketing. The sky’s the limit and this would be the best decision for TNA.

  8. Nova_numb says:

    I think they should go to Vegas. I mean revamp the TNA feel, bring back the girls in the cages on the side of the stage. Give everything a new "Gambling/Sin City" kinda feel. Stop trying to provide something that WWE can give fans and do it better. Give them a show that fans will tune into because of the wild stuff TNA is doing.

  9. june19th2002 says:

    Before they were there tna was fine they screwed it up

  10. cjones770 says:

    For TNA to Travel WWE style isn't feasible after her dad put restrictions on the check book. Just because i said it isn't feasible, doesn't mean they can't go on the road, they just have to do it smart.

    They need to have a home, and only take impact on the road on special occasions. Take BFG and Slammiversary on the road the first Thursday of the month leading up to the big ppv (The Road to BFG or The Road to Slammiversary). For exsample.. If BFG is in San Diego, and TNA Impact home is in Orlando, the "Road to BFG" would look like this

    Atlanta
    Arkansas
    Texas
    San Diego

    Then for Slammiversary, they would take a different route to the PPV location. When they both PPV events are over, they would stay home until the following year, then they would head out of the "Road to" Again, except, they would never follow the same routes as the did the prior year…..

    Since TNA wouldn't be on the road all the time, this would only build anticipation for the fans in that state.

    Another thing they could do on top of what i said above is go to special events in their target demographic…. Like work out a deal with Full Throttle Saloon (since christy works there) and hold a "live" or a tapped addition of impact wrestling during Sturgis.

    I Very much enjoyed seeing new crowds every week, and i was very much for TNA going on the road even knowing in my mind that it wasn't going to work out for the in the long haul, but doing something i mentioned above would work out quite well for them.

  11. The Boss says:

    Well, I was looking forward go attending the 500th episode of Impact Wrestling on November 7. But if Logan’s not going to be there what’s the point of spending the money? I’ll just watch it on TV.

  12. JoeWrestling says:

    Of course everyone knows dropping endless amounts of money on advertising will get more people to mindlessly watch the show. They don't have the money or are not willing to spend it. So at the end of the day, that is not going to work. Spike obviously isn't paying enough per episode to foot all the costs. TNA needs to just cut costs, build some stars, and then try to get more shows or more dollars per show for their product. All they need to do is build around a few guys, bring in cheap indy talent or ex-WWE guys for a month or two run. Have them job out to their guys they are building then either dump them, or if they are over build those guys up too. But these ex-WWE guys need to job to the TNA guys to show the guys you are building are superior, then they can be built back up as TNA stars only if they prove themselves as money draws. You have to establish the TNA talent as superior to the other, and stop acknowledging you are a second tier promotion. Just say you are the best, and if the audience doesn't want to believe it, they aren't going to watch anyway. But how are they going to believe it if the WWE guy walks in and becomes the top guy first match and smashes the TNA talent?

    • tnadude says:

      Your thought is great on the surface, but it's missing one key point – TNA doesn't have enough air time to go around as it is now.

      Adding more talent (whether jobbers or not) won't help that cause. Truthfully speaking, they won't get anywhere until they start creating gimmicks for wrestlers. Gimmicks that work. They've screwed up AJ for the last 2 years. It's almost comical at this point.

      Magnus screams mega star – but he needs a gimmick (really, more of a "purpose") for the fans to associate themselves with him. Simply stating that he's the future is ridiculous. They need to put him over as the future instead. Don't get me wrong, he's over. He's very over. But not at the level of HH or SCSA, or even Sting. And that's the promotion's job.

      Then, they need to start pushing the right talent (James Storm, anyone?). And for crying out loud, whose been better than Daniels? He'll never be a megastar, but a feud with him could help develop the next megastar. Besides, he deserves a major angle and push.

  13. Lazarus says:

    the iwc hate for anything Tna or hogan-bischoff goes hand in hand. articles like this pop up too get more clicks. all the ideas that hogan and bischoff pushed for are things that were logical next steps ft Tna too grow. im sure there are lots of fans who wish Tna was still the six sided ring in the theme park running their little TV show each week. but bischoff and hogan weren’t brought in too do that show. they were hired for the specific purpose of turning Tna into a viable competitor to wwe. did they fail? who knows, the iwc expects overnight results. it doesn’t help any that the critics have been harsh and ready to pounce since day 1. 3 years isn’t near enough time too build Tna into something viable. the fans who say oh Tna was doing great before Hogan are morons. Tna was doing their lil show and that’s about it. it would have been 5 too 10 years before they ever attempted weekly live impacts or road shows. if ever.

  14. shanedraper says:

    they need to go back the the basics like how tna was before 2010

  15. Ryuho121 says:

    hell if TNA wants to go to a single location do it somewhere in NYC area not really TNA Country but its one hell of a wrestling community from great fans to historic venues even ROH does really well when they go there just fire Hogan and Bischoff and give us some real wrestling and u win

    • jflegler says:

      Yep. I have to agree. There is nothing like wrestling in NYC (my old stomping grounds ) or my current area of Philly. Either one would be a huge improvement over Seniorville, Florida.

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