Posted by TNA Wrestling News Staff on Oct 6, 2013
Update On TNA’s Major Cost-Cutting Measures

Update On TNA’s Major Cost-Cutting Measures

As reported on earlier, TNA is cutting back on house show events for the rest of 2013 as no events outside of two Impact Wrestling tapings and the Bound for Glory PPV are scheduled for the month of October.

The company is only advertising six more house show events for the rest of the year in what appears to be a sign that they are no longer profitable for TNA.

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27 Responses to “Update On TNA’s Major Cost-Cutting Measures”

  1. toddmikki says:

    Or there slowing down because of ALL the family holidays are coming up.

    • Bigmike885 says:

      ya..that's the excuse..yet doesn't explain October…or most of November…

      • tnadude says:

        October has always been slow due to BFG. Not sure how many they traditionally run in November or December though.

        Anybody know the traditional count?

      • Pippin says:

        October is explainable as it is the month of Bound For Glory and as a result TNA, sensibly, doesn't run house shows to prevent talent from getting injured or being tired.

        This site has reported this same thing 5 times in the past few weeks and the continues to ignore this. It is nothing new.

    • OldManEaston says:

      LOL, I am sure those wrestlers are eternally grateful too because they now have less money for those holidays than they would if they worked their normal rotation.

      Do you ever get tired of making excuses for the mess that has become of TNA, since Dixie Carter bet the farm on your boy Hogan?

      • tnadude says:

        On the surface, your point seems dead on. The current situation stems from taking the show on the road.

        But it's also being reported that the Carter family may be positioning the company for sale. If so, being on the road and having HH makes them more interesting to potential suitors – particularly SpikeTV who like Hogan and want the show to be live and on the road.

        The addition of the WWE training facility in Orlando was certainly no accident either. It was a direct move into TNA territory, and **may** have forced them to leave the Impact Zone out of fear of losing talent. Hey – I don't blame WWE for doing it. It's business. And frankly, it's good business. But it is what it is.

        If either of these is the case (and everything on these sites is speculation anyway), then suddenly the move starts to make sense.

        If neither of these is the case, then sorry – but the blame here lies squarely on Dixie herself. She's in charge. She controls the budget. Bischoff has said many times that he & Hogan don't control the talent that comes in, they just figure out how to use it.

        If they can't select talent, how can they put the show on the road? I'm not saying they're completely innocent. They deserve some shame here because they made a recommendation, and the recommendation was awful.

        But a recommendation is just that – a recommendation. Dixie is responsible for the due diligence. She's the officer of the company, and she deserves 90% of the blame.

  2. TwIsTeD_EnEmY says:

    The purpose of house shows should be as a way of garnering more support for the brand, not just to make money. If you break even, but gain 100 supporters each time you have a house show, that's far more important imo.
    However, TNA only seems to advertise for house shows on social media and during iMPACT.
    Could perhaps look into promoting locally before house shows?

    • OldManEaston says:

      House shows in this modern era are where your talent gets paid. That is why you follow the TV and no one uses TV time to heavily promote house shows anymore. House shows are rinse and repeat, they are just maintenance, not for raising brand awareness, but they still have to be somewhat profitable or even break even, especially if the company is already hemorrhaging money as appears to be the case for TNA. If you lose money on TV and PPV's, you can't lose money on house shows as well.

    • Bigmike885 says:

      totally agree man..they where here in el paso a couple weeks ago and I didn't hear a single word about it unless it was on impact or on the was pretty sad

    • Jon says:

      Effective traditional promotion isn't without cost. The most obvious place to put something like a TV commercial would be during Raw … which is one of the most expensive shows on cable in virtually any local market (typical price bump is around 4x higher than a random primetime spot on USA) You could always stick one on the few stations carrying ROH I suppose but since virtually no one is watching it, well, that's not exactly a winning proposition. It's a simple ROI equation, does what you spend at least equal what you'd earn and for TNA the answer to that question is most likely no.

    • Philly_Cheese says:

      The house shows are probably the biggest cost for TNA right now being on the road. Renting out those venues tends to be expensive, they probably realized that until they're in one location that they can use without being charged per use, that it'd be better just to go without.

  3. Roid Master says:

    Just curious…how many fans do these house shows draw? I haven't been to one.

    • toddmikki says:

      I was able to make it to one in Detroit and it was packed to the gills, probably 600-800

    • OldManEaston says:

      Most WWE house shows I have been to tend to draw in the low 2-3 thousand range. I would guesstimate the biggest WWE house draw I've seen as around 4,000 max for the road to Wrestlemania tour.. The couple of new TNA shows I have been to were substantially less than that, probably no more than 5-6 hundred or so, not counting the old Asylum days which I attended quite a few of. TNA's house show in Cape Girardeau Missouri this summer that my friend attended, probably had about 200 people people according to him. Basically indy numbers.

      • TheMiwyun says:

        Old man western…why dont you shut your napper and let some other jabroni have a turn at talking shit. What company do you work for again? Stop spamming everyone's shit up. No on wants to read it. Unless you turn out to be Bill Goldberg then shhhh.

        • Mr. Excitement says:

          Earlier in the year a RAW house show in Toronto sold out with around 11,000 people. I went to a TNA house show a few years back in the same arena. It was dead. Maybe around 900 at most.

          I knew about the house show from an 'Upcoming Events' banner on Impact. My buddy knew about it from a newspaper ad. Toronto is a great wrestling market and if TNA promoted it much better, they could have sold much more.

          No Surrender 2008 in a small town 45 minutes east of the city had around 3,000 in attendance.

          TNA could be doing so much better if they put more focus on house shows.

          • jbcissom says:

            It's not just the house shows though. TNA is about to become the first tv-focused revenue sports entertainment entity (much like the old American Gladiators). Either sign guys to lower salaries but granting freedom to do indies, or be willing to pay out guaranteed salaries.

            With that said, TNA needs to find a permanent home or homes. I'm in favor of multiple sound stages, because it gives a "touring" feel and you aren't always "guaranteed" the same crowd over and over.

        • OldManEaston says:

          Why don't you make me b*tch boy.

    • jflegler says:

      I went to a house show in Bethlehem, PA in September of 2012 – I would say 400 people maximum.

  4. Euphoria says:

    Think of this. Bfg is the biggest pay per view of the year for TNA. So they want to make sure their talent is well rested. And then you have the hollidays. Hopefully paid hollidays. But we don’ t know.

    • jflegler says:

      Resting for the biggest pay-per-view of the year is doubtful. In contrast, you would expect to see the wrestlers more often in order to hype the product.

      Personally, I watch both promotions and enjoy each for different reasons. WWE has at least 3 major events: WrestleMania, Summerslam, and Survivor Series. I am not so sure that the wrestlers tend to rest around those periods of time.

      • Bigmike885 says:

        the only one they really "rest" for is wresltemania (just a fyi..the rumble is much bigger than SS) and its not like they really rest..they're doing access for THOUSANDS of people for the week, plus all sorts of other events…

  5. JoeWrestling says:

    They have been drawing the same for house shows, why would they be not profitable now, and why would they do 6 more then? They always slow down at the end of the year, and have UK tour Jan-Feb. It will pick up after that. It's like the exact same stories as every year, but with "and this is because TNA is going out of business" tacked on the end. This story doesn't even have a source saying it, just "appears to be a sign".

  6. AussieWrestling says:

    It was reported before that TNA needs north of 1000 to break even. They are getting between 600-900, so theres no surprise they're cutting down on it. Thats all you needed to say.

  7. lee4tammy says:

    the problem is tnabook huge massive arenas and venues that they never have a hope in hell breaking even on

    tna need to book city halls or small 3 thousand max venues both for impact and house shows instead of booking 10 thousand seat arenas


    • jbcissom says:

      I don't get why TNA isn't doing that. I mean that's how WWE and WCW started. Seriously, go watch the early Nitros and Raws. I mean the early Raws were done in the Hammerstein Ballroom, with half of used to set up production equipment.

  8. Joe says:

    Years ago they came here to binghamton and drew maybe 400 fans. While the other promotions that run the area are not mainstream, you know when they’re having a show because you hear about it. They create a buzz. There was no buzz for the TNA show, and its a shame because they put on a good show.

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